2023 Israel Hamas War - Updates 2

Various Posts & Updates

First Post:

Sequel to be updated soon with updates and posts previously published (mostly on Twitter / X).

Update 1

(original post

https://twitter.com/ZimermanErik/status/1722997208784548070 on Nov 10 2023)

1 Month later... I knew the pictures would be different. Wrote the quoted post as we dashed off to war (you can see the Oct 7th post in the above “2023 Israel Hamas War - Update” above).

Gaza city is cut off. Soon the main Hospitals such as Shifa and the Indonesian Hospitals (where Hamas command centers hide) will be taken. The hamas fighters, so deadly vs unarmed families, women, grandmothers and babies, and a rave of youngsters, fare far worse against our fighters.

They shout out for a ceasefire, leveraging Biden and his anti-Israel Democratic party to save them. They desperately try to get Hezbollah to open the northern front.

Nasrallah, who is set to speak again tomorrow, called out the Arab and Muslim world on their duplicity.

"...that 22 Arab and Muslim states cannot deliver a single truck of supplies to Gaza or allow the departure of a single patient. Look how weak and impotent we are. Gazans are telling the whole Arab and Muslim countries, "We are not asking for your arms, weapons and fighters, but do you not have the least honour or dignity to deliver some aid?""

The Arab world not only does not come defend the murdering hamas regime, but does not even aid nor accept the gazan residents. Yet they level criticism at him, who as head of an organization with a few thousand fighters, apparently should take on Israel fully mobilized and enraged.

He should (but likely won't of course) tell them off in clearer terms.

The reason the Arab world does not help the residents of Gaza nor accept them is because the fight for them is nationalistic entirely and not humanitarian. However, the bulk of the PR which is anti Israel and pro "palestinian" is heavily humanitarian in nature. I hope to address this more fully if I can later on.

But in short, they are are allowed, even expected to do everything for the land. Egypt will not accept the largely Egyptian Gazans because that would "solve" the problem both for Israel, and that of their crowded conditions. The Sinai and much of Egypt is empty.

The Arab world has no interest in helping Israel solve anything, and they are willing to sacrifice the well being of any muslim, especially the "palestinians" for this. That is fine, but if they are are allowed, able and even expected to be willing to do anything for the land... then we can certainly allow ourselves to do some things for the land as well.

Gaza is small for 2 million Arabs, but the Muslim world isn't, Egypt isn't and the entire world isn't. How is the solution that Israel is to accept is that the 2 million arabs within its tiny borders, perpetuating insecurity and violence, rather than their residing with their fellows the common sense one? Pre-Oct 7th, Gazans, leftists & the Arab world loved to remind us of just how many Gazans were refugees. Quoted figures up to 80%. You can’t at the same time be a displaced refugee in a strange land and also in your historic ancestral homeland which should remain yours regardless of your actions can you?

In any event, soon the coastal shoulder will be in our hands. Then downtown Gaza city and the dense "camps" will be left. Once Gaza, by far the largest and most heavily defended area falls, the south should be next with Khan Yonis and Rafiah, easier to take due to the gaps in urban territory between them and among them.

However, it will be a strategic sin of historic proportions for Israel to allow the 70-90% of residents who have already fled south on their own to return to Gaza city. They should be restituted as with eminent domain principles and given better opportunities elsewhere. The misguided world pressure, which insists on pushing enemies together so that they can keep killing each other, rather than their fellows taking them is indeed just that, misguided.

The world pretends to care about the humanitarian side of the issue. If that is the problem, then there is no problem. Gaza is small, so is Israel. The world isn't. The Arab world isn't and the Muslim world isn't. Anyone who wants to help Gazans can. Anyone who wants to accept them as immigrants can.

The world position is that no one should other than their sworn enemies, whom they just treacherously slaughtered, in the single tiny Jewish state. Why is Gaza "sieged"? Why won't Egypt open its border to Gaza?

Because for them the fight is nationalistic, its about the land of Israel. Not about humanitarian considerations. And I repeat, if they can want the land, our ancient biblical land, every inch of it, then so can we.

Their horrific slaughter of our people has weakened the leftist forces that always constrain us. At least for the now, our warriors are unleashed upon them and make short work of them.

The very lack of combat footage release from Hamas, shows you how dire their situation is. Despite common belief now that their operation succeeded beyond their expectations, I believe the opposite is true. It did not go as planned at all.

Hope to be able to elaborate on these matters soon. And hope that our leadership is able to resist world and American pressure, to allow us to achieve victory.

Update 2

(original post Nov 11 2023.

https://twitter.com/ZimermanErik/status/1723243962503233997 )

Stirred up the hornet's nest of course (with the above yeterday’s post). Which is fine. I dashed off these previous thoughts quickly, in the middle of a war, and on the field.

Was not able to elaborate as I would have preferred (which I have done elsewhere for those who care to look).

However, the myriad charges of "ethnic cleansing" ring hollow and hypocritical. At the least, they are ignorant of the realities, and they phase me not at all.

Good enough for those who, once having thrown a progressive virtue signal at something, think an argument is hermitically settled and done, the counterparty cancelled.

For those that would like to remove some of that fog, and know more than to repeat the hypocritical and hysteric platitudes of the mainstream media narrative, I provide some context.

Firstly, the thought I have been expressing is that it is noteworthy that the world in full, the Arab and Muslim world included, refuse to allow the Gazan population within their borders, while that very criticism is harshly leveled at Israel, the very country that would be least expected to do so, being one party to a mutual enmity. Also, that if Arab residents have already left of their own will, despite Hamas attempts to forcefully stop them (hard to do while also fleeing), Israel should engage with them in terms of reparations and the sale of any of their properly, but would have to be suicidal to allow back within its own borders.

The fact is that the vast majority of Gazans would leave Gaza for a better place if they could.

The world does not make any effort to make this an option for them. The fact that many would like to cynically use Arab Gazans as pawns in their war against the existence of the state of Israel regardless, most would leave for better fields if they could. The fact is that they can't.

None of the 22 Arab countries, nor any of the approximate 50 Muslim countries or nearly 200 countries in the world will accept any of them... Egypt itself largely refuses to even accept wounded Gazans for treatment. So afraid are they of changing the precedent.

Israel automatically accepts all Jewish immigrants from any country on earth. Without precondition whatsoever. In most Arab countries, Arabs from the regions within Israel that fled there in 1948, generations later, still do not hold citizenship nor equal rights regarding work, land ownership and the like.

Most Gazans don't leave the strip because they cannot. Israel (and any country who wishes to help them) should try to make that an option for them.

That is all.

What is the "Gaza Strip" anyway? As I have explained before, it is a part of Israel (or "Palestine" as others would call it) that was taken by Egyptian forces in the 1948 war. Its borders match where the IDF was able to stop them. It has no other geographic meaning or existence. And that is why it's a narrow strip, it was a narrow military advance. The vast majority of Gazans claim to be displaced refugees from elsewhere, and not home in their ancestral lands. How convenient we stopped hearing about that recently. When they wish to enlarge their territory, at Israel’s expense, they are all refugees entitled to the coveted land (while still holding on to their temporary refugee home of course), and when trying not to lose their present territory (hated & temporary displaced persons home as it is), then the mainstream speaks of it as if the Gazans had literally sprung out of the sand dunes in the time of Adam, never to have moved an inch since. Wonderful.

Jews have dwelled in the area throughout history, like in the rest of Israel. The arbitrary stip has been "Juden-free" only in the 19 years between the independence war, when Egypt seized it, and the Six Day War when Israel recaptured it; and then again since 2005 when Israel self-ethnically cleansed it of Jews in a desperate and misguided attempt at peace by appeasement (the shameful "Disengagement"). Egypt of course ethnically cleansed the strip from Jews when its forces advanced (and thus "created") the strip in 1948.

Kfar Darom we can take as an example; a Jewish village located on land purchased by Jews in 1930 (long before the modern Israel's independence) on the site where a Talmudic era Jewish settlement by the same name existed. Egypt seized it by force and without payment of course.

Left were only the Arab residents. Egypt ruled those very Arab residents until the1967 without issue. In that year's war, Israel recaptured the strip and more land including adjacent Sinai. When Sinai was returned to Egypt as part of a peace deal (the Jewish population had to first of course be painfully and forcefully removed, so that Egypt receive an ethnically cleansed land, and lest the Jews be murdered otherwise under Egyptian control), the Arabs within it were immediately considered Egyptian. Had the deal included the strip, nothing would have stopped the same thing from applying to the strip.

The strip can be seen as territory that has been in recent history disputed in battle between Israel and Egypt. The jurisdiction question aside (no country has a "right" to land, it only has (or doesn't have) land), the people within it have been largely Jews/Israelis and Arabs/Egyptians.

Israel has never wanted nor allowed its people to remain under the other's control. If it loses the land, it takes back its people. On the other hand, the reason Egypt refuses to accept its former residents back is in order to use them as a weapon against Israel. (quite effectively).The world largely backs this play. The people within it suffer.

Arabs in the West Bank (also only Juden-Free during the 19 years between the wars after it was violently ethnically cleansed of Jews by Arabs in 1948), especially those ruled by Israel in Area C, would opt to leave much much less if at all, given the option, because they live rather well (despite propaganda to the contrary). I invite you to visit to see this for yourself. Those in Area A, under full PA control such as in Jenin, Schem (Nablus), and Ramallah, live less well and more of them would opt to leave given the chance (though nowhere near in the proportions as in Gaza).

The Arabs within the Green Line (the pre-Six Day War line), which have full citizenship rights in Israel, vote and are (hostile) members of the Knesset, would opt to leave even less so. They live under more freedom & economic prosperity than they would under any Arab country.

In 2005 under the shameful & disastrous “Disengagement”, an additional area, where 10 thousand Jews and 0 Arabs lived, known as "Gush Katif", was forcefully ethnically cleansed of Jews by Israel. Israel unilaterally withdrew from it and Arabs in Gaza naturally advanced upon it. This was another attempt at appeasement. The bulk of the strip, outside of Gush Katif, had been Jew-free since Israel's evacuation in the early 90's under the imbecilic (for Israel) Oslo accords. All withdrawal attempts at appeasement have only invited more death (to get yet more land from a seemingly collapsing and withdrawing foe).

The very history of the Jews outside of Israel begins with forced expulsions and exile. The 10 northern tribes did not survive the Assyrian captivity, but the Judeans did the Babylonian one. Tito's Rome lays waste to Judea and Israel, and scatters the remnants of the Jewish people. Modern Israel itself of course, was established in the wake of the massive and (real) genocidal "ethnic cleansing" of Europe during the holocaust. In the wake of that, the Muslim world forcefully largely expelled its Jewish population and seized their property and assets. These Mizrachi/Sefaradi Jews then were welcomed in Israel as well.

Population transfers, exchanges, and exiles are everywhere in history of course. In modern times India and Pakistan saw a massive population transfers of some 15 to 20 million establish the modern states, where the religion of the residents more closely aligned with the borders. This allowed for the current countries' existence. Where this did not happen, such as in Kashmir, endless violence continues.

Turkey and Greece, forcefully expelled and exchanged about 1.4 million Christians from Anatolia and .4 million muslims from Greece.

The gentleman, under the League of Nations, who conceived the plan, Fridtjof Nansen, even won a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts. In Cyprus during modern times, we have also have large populations transfers between the Greek and Turkish sides. Post WWII, the Allied powers oversaw a massive expulsion of some 12 million Germans from Europe. Sometimes those exchanges solve ethnic tensions that otherwise lead to endemic chronic violence.

In very recent times, just a few years ago, Sunni jihadi forces virtually ethnically cleansed Iraq of its millennia old Christian population (among others), through murder, fear and expulsion. They (ISIS and the like) get no western protests against them (since they don't listen or care).

It should not go unnoticed that Hamas-ruled Gaza, in its short-lived conquest of the "Otef Gaza" (the areas in Israel surrounding Gaza) a few weeks ago, fully ethnically cleansed all areas under its control by murder and kidnapping. Free Jews were not left under its brief jurisdiction. I suppose that is all fine and well though.

The British themselves during the pre-state Mandate period suggested population transfers as the best course of action. No one shouted “genocide” at them. The famous 1947 UN partition plan itself obviously implied massive population transfers (Jews would obviously not live under Arab jurisdiction (if they liked living), and Arabs largely also would have preferred to leave their homes towards Arab rule. The partition plan thus, explicitly included guarantees for all those who wished to move within the two territories for 1 year after partition.

Likewise every major proposal for a "palestinian state" in more recent times involved de-facto and de-jure, an ethnic cleansing of Jews from the area. That Jews cannot be left within palestinian jurisdiction we all take for granted. Firstly, if they were, they would be murdered (at least that would be the attempt). Secondly, the Arab parties would never accept any proposal to the contrary, the "dirty" Jew that inhabits their Muslim land would be first removed as part of an agreement they sign. "From the river to sea,..." is thus of course always a call for the destruction of Israel and forceful expulsion (ethnic cleansing) of all of Israel at best, and a call to genocide at its worse. While Muslims (as well as Christians and others) can (and do) live in safety under Jewish rule (one stroll in the Old city, Jaffa, Haifa or look at the Knesset’s typically 10-20% Arab composition).

We can all easily see endless videos, of blonde college campus girls (whom Hamas would gladly rape and kill) telling us that Ashkenazi Jews are from Europe and should all be sent back there by force (she however should not return her home to the Navajo for some reason).

Ethnic cleansing of Jews, which happens on a daily basis in theory in this discussion, and has happened repeatedly in actuality both in Israel's wars (whenever it lost a piece of land regardless of how small or for how little time, Oct 7 included), and in the so called peace deals. Ethnic cleansing of Jews is an accepted and almost boring fact, while any mention of even working towards an option for Arabs within Israel (be it Gaza, Judea, Samara or pre-1967 Israel) to be able to go elsewhere if they chose, perhaps among their fellow coreligionists to live better or at least more peaceful lives rather than be forcefully kept jaw to jaw against their enemies for the nationalistic enjoyment of other Arabs who live far away (including in oil fueled wealth) and woke westerners who know nothing about this area of the world (nor much about the world in general), is automatically a rallying call for cancel culture to come and strike its very existence from the earth (along with Israel's).

For those interested in Israel's destruction, at any price including the lives of Arabs in Gaza, you are doing well (with you “opinions” that is), for those willing and able to open their minds, learn, think critically and be open to other possibilities outside of what MSNBC approves, there is much work to be done.

Update 3

Nov 12 2023

Response to Col. Macgregor’s post: https://twitter.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1723456901654970819

Originally posted here

https://twitter.com/ZimermanErik/status/1723599879052673445

Col. Macgregor. I have great respect for you, America (or what it once was), and your views sir.

Here, I must tell you that Netanyahu does not have the US where it wants it. He (and the rest of us) want it nowhere. We do not wish nor need any US assistance, certainly not for anyone to fight our battles. That has never happened in the past (usually an embargo instead), and it should not happen now.

On October 7th, we allowed our women, old people an children to be murdered, tortured and taken. All we want is at them, and anyone else who wishes to stand with them.

Israel is not Ukraine, and Hamas is certainly not Russia. What we need from the US is precisely the opposite of what the Biden administration is giving us. We wish for nothing, but the freedom to vanquish our ruthless foes after their treacherous and murderous Oct 7th attack. Biden gives us nothing but the opposite.

While he pays lip service on supporting Israel, in desperate search for a win (he loses in Ukraine, loses in Afghanistan, loses economically, loses everywhere and the Democratic party knows it), and wishes to attach himself to a win, that desired was tempered as soon as the Oct 7th shock began to wane, and the principles of the Democratic party come to bare.

All we receive from the US administration is pressure to stop, ceasefire and withdraw. Threats and pressure. Nasrallah understands this well and that is why in his ast two speeches made clear that the only strategic hope for our foes, is that the collective West, America specifically stop Israel.

We are the anti-Ukraine example. We do not need nor request help, and our strategic aim is not to embroil others to win our wars for us or push the world towards WWIII. On the contrary we wish for less globalization of the conflict. It is local, it is ours. Our enemies, like Ukraine, want it regionalized and then internationalized. We don't ask the West for help, would be very appreciative if the West would just not help our enemies. But either way, we press on towards victory as long as the Bidens of the world do not succeed in cowing our leaders, who certainly do not have them where they want them.

Update 4

Nov 16 2023 ( thread here

https://twitter.com/ZimermanErik/status/1725174261600383136 )

As time passes, the truth in my words (from Update 3 & elsewhere) should be ever more evident.

The US, the EU, the UN and the collective West pressures us to stop short of victory. Our foe, Hamas, who would gladly kill every westerner trying to save them, has only one chance, as I repeatedly have written, that our political leaders buckle under the Democratic party's pressure.

While they hide their criticism in humanitarian costume, their please are meant to stop us from achieving victory only. The US itself legally considers Hamas a terrorist organization, not legitimately ruling the territory of the Gaza strip. Certainly toppling this regime aligns with US law, if not also the general wellbeing of western civilization. The Democratic party as usual, flaunts both (US law, and US interests).

Instead of for example, calling for Hamas to stop resisting (say especially around hospitals and residential areas), which would then end the fighting, it calls for Israel to stop fighting, before it can topple the terrorist regime.

The US, understandably went haywire after the 9/11 attacks. These terrorists attacks killed about 3,000 people, mostly civilians, amounting to about .00105% of the US population at the time in 2001.

In response the US promptly toppled the Taliban in Afghanistan (who now, over 20 years later and under Biden's brilliant leadership, back in power), over 10,000 kilometers away, subsequently invaded and conquered (I mean... "liberated") Iraq, and bombed and chased down Islamist terrorists all over the world.

Without in any way endorsing these figures, but only as an indication of scale, I note that the Watson Institute of International & Public Affairs (Brown University) has found that over 432 thousand civilians have died violent deaths as a direct result of the US post 9/11 wars (with with more indirect deaths in the millions).

During WWII, Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Empire of Japan in 1941. The attack that "will live in infamy", inflicted 2,403 deaths, 68 of which were civilians. The attack was military in nature and inflicted a proportionally small number of civilian casualties (or "collateral damage" as the West calls it).

The deaths were 0.00180% of the US population at the time.

The Sept 11 attacks were carried out clandestinely by a very small group of terrorists based very far away from the US. Regardless, the response was global, formal and in grand scale. Whole regimes and in fact countries felt the response.

In regards to Japan of course as we well know, nothing short of a total unconditional surrender was accepted, and it did not come before millions of Japanese casualties and two atomic bombs dropped on (obviously civilian) cities.

Civilian Japanese casualties due to Allied bombings are estimated at up to 1 million (varying estimates exist but all very high and in this approximate scale) and 600 too 800 thousand German civilians were killed due to Allied bombings.

It goes without saying, that the war itself, claimed the lives of many many millions, soldiers and civilians alike (6 million Jews intentionally murdered among them).

On October 7th, during a Jewish Holiday and on the Sabbath, a terrorist regime not thousands of kilometers away, but at our doorstep, attacked us, not with 19 box-cutter wielding hijackers, but with thousands of armed thugs carrying everything from RPGs and AK-47s to heavy machine guns and advanced anti-tank weapons.

The Hamas regime itself, governing and representing the Gazans, invaded Israel in a surprise attack. The casualties inflicted that day (or two) were about 1,500 between the over ~1,200 murdered and the kidnapped of unknown fate at the moment.

Rather than mostly military, these deaths were overwhelmingly civilians. These included many women, children, seniors, and even babies. They were not the "collateral damage" of shelling aimed at military targets, rather they were the targets. They were killed up close and personal, with knives, guns... all too often raped, tortured and burned alive.

I can hardly view, much less share the many videos, pictures and testimony which attests to this brutality. It is easily available for all those who care to find it.

The Jewish population of Israel, to put it very generously, stands at 7 million people. The 1,500 casualties make up 0.02143% of the population slaughtered (or kidnapped) in the span of hours. That percentage is over 2,000 times the percentage of US casualties in 9/11, and about 1,190 times that of Pearl Harbor.

It was by far the deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust.

Those who speak about a "proportional response" are discussing an absurd concept. But if you want to discuss it, a historically appropriately proportionate response would be hard to imagine and infinitely worse than what Israel is seeking. We are actually incapable in our character of a sufficiently proportional response.

Israel seeks victory over Hamas in Gaza. Though it was attacked in a manner against the rules of war, and in a cowardly and terrorist manner, it is responding within the regular rules of war. It is invading Gaza and seeking to defeat the regime that currently rules it. The intensity of the fighting and where it takes place is dictated by Hamas. As is the level of civilian casualties. We will use the force that is required to defeat them.

Though we do not wish to inflict any civilian casualties, despite the regime that those same people have supported against us, we will also not (for a change) care more about them than their own.

We are not accepting our own kidnapped brothers and sisters as powerful enough human shields to provide Hamas with impunity, and we will certainly not accept theirs as such either.

This is the Democratic party. When unchained and not having to attempt inept statesmanship as Biden must, their values are clear to see.

https://twitter.com/RepLuna/status/1724979031714455739

This is the party in power, and it is not helping Israel in this fight, but only pressuring it to stop.

If Israel withstands the pressure and continues on to victory, toppling Hamas from Gaza, then the US will pressure for are a return of Fatah and the PA, under the corrupt leadership of Abu Mazen.

https://twitter.com/leslibless/status/1724968597804474872

I have long indicated that this is what the leftist powers that be will want. In a recent post, I quoted some of this from years previous.

I believe, as I have written as well, that Bibi understands this danger and will resist it very strongly.

Since this is the worse possible outcome for Israel, it is what the Biden administration is pushing.

At first, Abu Mazen himself scowled at the idea. Just like I shuddered at the idea that IDF soldiers would belled to conquer Gaza for him, he could not be seen to want to be carried to this throne by the enemy.

But he has gradually softened his statements, where the PA has gone

from statements like this:

To have the Palestinian Authority go to Gaza and run the affairs of Gaza without a political solution for the West Bank, as if this Palestinian Authority is going aboard an F-16 or an Israeli tank? I don’t accept it. Our president does not accept it. None of us will accept it

—(PM Shtayyeh), to Abu Mazen himself saying that he is willing to rule Gaza as part of a "comprehensive political solution".

The Biden administration is trying to achieve an Israeli military defeat, but if it fails at that, it is already planning a political one for Israel. It remains to be seen if Bibi Netanyahu and the coalition will stand up to the Western pressure, which boringly is always for suicide.